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is this why many Japanese tend not to age.?

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is this why many Japanese tend not to age.?

Postby charlie » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:33 am

after reading an article several years ago about 'Why Japanese do not age',i decided to try it.
it is pure Camellia oil,and i,ve used it for at least 5 years,it is a bit messy but i swear its the best stuff i,ve ever used,and its so reasonable to buy,
i slosh it on,wait a few minutes,and then add some cheap skin cream.
i,m always being complimented on how well my skin is looking.

a gallon lasts me for ages.
:shock: :D :D :D
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Postby dr. lam » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:04 am

Japanese and many Asians can look younger than their Caucasian counterparts principally for 2 reasons:
1. the skin is more impervious to sun damage even though it can be the same color in many cases.
2. unlike whites, Asians abhor the sun. any color on their skin is thought to be an ugly feature. also, any sunspots or blemishes are deemed dreadful. as you know, sun is the worst thing for aging.
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Postby charlie » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:51 am

i too hate being out in the sun,i avoid sunbathing like the plague,in fact i,ve never thought tanned skin looked wonderful,i much prefer being pale but healthy.
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Postby dr. lam » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:29 am

that's the British way!
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Postby summertan » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:46 pm

Charlie, I was thinking of trying camelia oil but read reports it may be comedogenic for some people - I have acne prone oily skin. Any input on that? What's your skin type?
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Postby Christina » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:30 pm

does anyone know where to buy camellia oil? Yes, I also notice asians do not age. I always thought because they have thicker skin then caucasians. I also notice that asians have a very healthy glow to them. My family hosted japanese for years, so I have learned about some of their customs and they are smart in staying out of the sun or protecting themselves if they are in the sun.
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Postby charlie » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:59 am

hi summertan and Christina,
my skin is really quite oily and have had not the slightest problem,or indeed has any of my 'youth'buddies who have various skin types.
i think because its absolutely pure with no additives it works for most folks.
i used to buy Camellia oil in a shop in England, but they are quite expensive. :x
i now buy it by the litre (honestly) from a UK supplier.
i guess the postage might be expensive due to the weight.
failing that if you 'google'you should find several suppliers.

a word of warning: if its clear,it ai,nt the real stuff,it must be a pale yellow colour.
i hope Dr Lam is,nt annoyed cause i started this thread :cry:
i used to be a moderator on a skin care forum ,until i mentioned the merits of Camellia oil :o ......of course i understood cause they were promoting their own products,and quite rightly so.
anyways i stand completely by my positive results and 'proof is in the pudding' :shock: and my puddings looking good. :D
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Postby dr. lam » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:16 pm

don't worry. i'm okay with your talking about camilia oil. just not if you work for a company and start blindly promoting it. trying to keep this posting clean.
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Postby charlie » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:27 pm

no i dont work for a company .
i,m just very interested and curious about any lotion or potion which might deliver.
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Postby dr. lam » Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:12 pm

ok
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Postby summertan » Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:23 pm

Charlie, you mentioned your mother has a nice skin. Do you think your nice skin is result of genetics or from using the camellia oil?

Wasn't your skin nice before the oil and if not, what problems did the oil resolve?
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Postby charlie » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:25 pm

hello summertan,
yes i do think we often inherit looks,skin etc from our parents.
my skin was always quite good ,but thats not all been due to genetics,its been a lifetime of always 'covering up' in the sun and a regime of skin care.
in my wild days when i used to drink,no matter how sozzled i might have been :) i never once went to bed without cleanse and face cream.
but in answer to your question; my skin is now always looking clear and refreshed,and i kind of feel the oil working immediatly its applied.
however i think we often try many products until we find the one whats right for us :?:
its all trial and error......one product does,nt suit all.
any skin cream has to be better than none., :!:
i remember Joan Collins saying that when she was financially struggling,she would put cooking fat on her face :shock: .
i saw Joan recently ,close up,and she looks wonderful,although to be fair,she is an artist at make-up.! but at 75 she puts many 40 year olds in the shade. :o
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Asians versus non-Asians

Postby Cat2007 » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:30 am

This is a pretty interesting topic and I've heard this before from nonAsians. I'm surprised a lot of non-Asians don't know this, but the reason why Asians seem to have more thicker, more supple skin on our faces is because genetically, we're programmed to having a thicker subcutaneous fat layer than other races (this is particularly true of East Asians).

Thats why if you look at a lot of Asians, our faces are quite round. Its not only because of the bone structure, but the thicker fat on our faces gives off that impression. When I weighed 130+ lbs, my face was essentially classified as round. After I lost weight however, I noticed my face shape changed entirely and started to look a lot better in my case, but then I had a lipo done which is another story (ugh!). Anyway, back on topic, our thicker "fatty" layer is also why our eyes look smaller and why some Asians only have a single lid. What surgeons do in blepharoplasty (at least in South Korea) is to remove fat from the upper eyelid and voila! you end up with a crease.
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Postby charlie » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:50 am

hello Cat2007,yes it is interesting to hear of others responses,oddy enough,i used to be asked if i was Asian or Middle East origin,but i,m born and bred English,but who knows what happened in the distant past.? :o
my face is really round and i was hoping to get a slimmer lower face.
.i guess we,re rarely satisfied with what we,re given. :?:

i often wonder why Asians want more Western eyes ,cause i just love that look.
its a blessing that there are brilliant plastic surgeons. :D
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Postby who » Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:55 am

I have to comment on the eye thing.

That's like saying white people want to be Latin when they tan. Or that they want to be black when they get breast augmentations. It's extremely ethnocentric. Seriously, people from Africa, Latin America, Middle East etc all have natural double eyelids... I don't understand why it becomes Asians want to be white.
Most Asians who get the procedure want to look like the Asians who do naturally have double eyelids, because their eyes are usually brighter and bigger. After the procedure, their eyes are still very different from white people's eyes, and very much so Asian. Double eyelids usually gives a larger and brighter eye. And, everyone in the world admires sparkling huge eyes.
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