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to shave or excise?

This section of the forum is dedicated to discussions on mole removal, Dr. Lam’s philosophy, technique, and results regarding removal of facial moles, nevi, and other facial lesions. (Also see, Scar revision and keloid management forum.)
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to shave or excise?

Postby userlhk » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:00 pm

I have a raised mole, about 1/4 inch wide and 1/8 of an inch raised. It is right next to my nostril and above my lip, so is not in the fold of my nose - it is right on my face. It's flesh colored and has been there for about 30 years. A few doctors have said to excise it completely, and others have said to shave it because a scar might 'dogear'. Not sure what to do but I do know I'm absolutely ready to get rid of it!
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby dr. lam » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:59 pm

can you post a photo on here?
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby userlhk » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:21 am

Sure - I have attached a pic. Thanks for your help with this. Much appreciated!
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby dr. lam » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:44 am

ok, very helpful. if you shave it off, it will definitely come back. think of the top side being a reflection of the bottom side. you have as much tissue below the skin as above it.

if you cut it out, it is in an area that is hard to close and can lead to some scarring, which can be unfavorable.

in an ideal world, what i typically offer a patient with such a sensitive location is a shave first and burning to reduce and contract the area, then 6 months to a year later an excision knowing full well that it could lead to some unfavorable scarring. i wish it were easier.
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby userlhk » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:17 am

Thanks so much! Lastly, I wonder if it's just better to go and get it excised straight away knowing that ultimately it's going to come back if it's shaved? That way I deal with one procedure and it's just a bit more time towards scar healing. Also, is there any kind of dermatological procedure (microderm, lasering, etc) that would ultimately help to smooth the scar?
I really appreciate your time and expert opinion. Thank you so much!
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby dr. lam » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:22 am

ultimately that is up to you. i like to shrink difficult to treat areas with shaving first so that i can shrink the tissue where the cut will be but i understand your desire for one treatment. yes, mechanical dermabrasion (not micro) can help with scars down the road.
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby userlhk » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:55 am

Thanks so much! Given me something to think about for this procedure...
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby dr. lam » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:56 am

cool.
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby sydneycrane » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:34 am

I have a similar mole. So you're saying there isn't a chance to completely remove it without either scaring or it coming back?
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby dr. lam » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:05 am

shaving = coming back
excision = possible scarring but with good technique, good follow up, and some good fortune maybe not.
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby FromMelb » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:30 am

dr. lam wrote:excision = possible scarring but with good technique, good follow up, and some good fortune maybe not.


Hi Dr Lam.
This statement you said, my surgeon I spoke with at the consultation said there was a 99% chance that it wont come back. Can you go into more details on how it could come back? I would of thought once its been cut off it is gone for good.

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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby dr. lam » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:54 am

a mole has depth. the top portion is a reflection of the bottom portion under the skin (like an iceberg). if it is very very flat, and you do a little burning, it won't come back. if it is raised then it will most likely come back but it might take a year or more for it to start coming back, sometimes years later.
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby FromMelb » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:03 am

I'm not sure if I should start a new topic or continue in this one but here goes. (I will start a new topic if needed)

I have a mole on my forehand just above my right eyebrows. Mole is 4mm diameter and is raised.
If it was excise, will start coming back years later?
Also about the area it is located. Is it a good place to have it excision at? as in, there wont be a problem during the procedure (cutting and stitching since the skin is pretty tight and located near the eye) and healing process.

Thanks.
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby dr. lam » Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:55 pm

if you shave it it will come back but if you excise it in your skin color it could have a bit of a scar and take some time to heal to look optimal. you might consider a shave followed by excision down the road for the failure. or just go straight to excision. if you excise, you will need most likely to have the adjacent tissues slid toward the middle in order to avoid distortion of your eyebrow. hard to explain but it would close with a vertical limb and two horizontal limbs on top and bottom. also, if you don't live in dallas, i won't do it for you because it will probably require multiple follow ups to make sure it heals well.
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Re: to shave or excise?

Postby FromMelb » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:30 am

Yea I don't live in the States but wanted your expertise because I'm going to get my mole removed in 19 hours. Still a little worried but should be all good.

Thanks for the information. :)
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