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Buy*ology and our attitude toward plastic surgery

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Buy*ology and our attitude toward plastic surgery

Postby Mysteryagain » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:06 am

Wow, those studies about what makes people crave something or not was enlightening! Boy, how much more important than an ad per se is the fact that we associate x or y positive feeling with having a given product!

Before I go on, thanks Dr Lam for telling me in what board to write, I had doubts about it. :)

Memento, you are too kind, and you too Mr Lam. It is so hard, though, to accept such compliments, I am so not used (and it is not false modesty) to get anything but extremely rare positive feedback on my appearance.

Back to the topic of "buy*ology", this set of articles on what motivates our longing for some things reminded me of something I saw years ago... and that indirectly makes me think of the world of plastic surgery and how the buy*ology "science" applies.

One day (by pure chance) I heard a rocker, a quite famous one "up there" mention why and how he had stopped smoking.
He was candid and had a good sense of humor, because he did not mind saying that his motivation had been "pathetic" by comparison of what it "should have been". Regardless, it is an interesting one.

He said he had been touring in Europe, were anti-smoking campaigns are more aggressive, in the sense of the images they use. Cigarettes boxes come with shocking, disturbing images to raise awareness of how smoking can make people end up in awful conditions.
He said he found those images shocking, indeed, but he still bought the cigarettes. Until he read (not sure where) about all the negative side effects of smoking in "looks". He said that this was the "click" he needed and that he knew it was a reflection of his vanity and shallowness, but he did not want to lie. It was out of preserving his looks and his rocker style (that implies looking young and "cool", I guess) that he felt motivated enough to quit.

I personally drew some conclusions from it... feel free to find them "off" or make remarks on them...

a) We only make changes when we really, really get to associate that change with something positive (in this case, for this guy, preserve his looks) concerning an issue we are sensitive about (for this guy, his looks)

b) We might rationally understand why and how we should make changes in our habits, but as long as we don't relate to what ads say, we won't make the subconscious association of the habit (smoking) with bad stuff (what was shown in pics in the cigarretes' boxes) that will in turn keep us motivated enough to change. For this rocker's case, someone relatively young, those pics of people with lung cancer and kids with alarmingly low birthweight due to smoking mothers might have looked real but not like something they could identify themselves or any future situation of theirs with.
Maybe he found all of those images shocking, but "distant", as if "that can not happen to me". While "looks", well, they are not a distant thing but something we "see" every day, and noticing a faster ageing due to a bad habit seemed like a closer, more imminent danger and consequence of that habit.

So... people tend to find the motivation for a big "change" when they associate the change with obtaining something really positive and important to *them*, rather than when they think of the "bad" they should preserve themselves from. People are drawn subconsciously to whatever will bring on nice emotions and feelings (like, for this guy, feeling still young and still "hot" as a rocker) and tend to reject subconsciously a change that will imply having things "taken away" from their current sense of wellbeing.

If we applied that to the plastic surgery field, I would assume (assume!) that people will feel drawn and more positive about making changes **and less likely to go overboard with those** (keeping common sense and not end with duck lips, say) if and when they get to see a plastic surgeon that treats them as patients, not as clients (like Dr Lam). I can imagine people going to Dr Lam and ending up not just objectively improved in a particular way, but feeling better *overall*: improved, rejuvenated, "restored"... which in turn will encourage them get back to Dr Lam's, as those patients will associate being treated by him with improvement AND positive overall feelings on their appearance.

On the other hand, I imagine other people going to other plastic surgeon, of the type who thinks of patients in terms of clients, and that attend even the craziest demands, getting out of an appointment/procedure feeling like they still have a lot to fix and discouraged, even if they already fixed something. I doubt these "clients", even if their procedures turned out ok, would end up feeling really ok or better in the long run. I doubt the surgeries or procedures would be associated in their minds with doing something to improve their quality of life, but instead would be associated with fighting something they hate about their looks. It might not seem like a huge difference, but it is.

I suspect Dr Lam's services apply intuitively buy*ology principles (in a fair, good way) as he treats patients in a way that whatever he does to them, he will make them feel better about how they look ALREADY and what can be improved, which in turn must motivate patients to come back to him: first and foremost, because he is good, of course, but second, because of all the positive extras they are "buying" when seeing him.
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Postby dr. lam » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:44 pm

thanks mysteryagain. very interesting observations. you are right in your estimations. however, one thing that Lindstrom's study showed was that these smokers were TURNED ON by these sick packages. their nucleus accumbens, the center for craving and addiction, went into hyperdrive. It was as if they knew it was bad for them so that they wanted it more, at an instinctual level. pretty sad but the truth based on fMRI scans. he talked about the gross labels you mentioned in the opening chapter of his book and the positive effect it had on smokers' desire for smoking. very bizarre stuff.
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Re: Buy*ology and our attitude toward plastic surgery

Postby Mysteryagain » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:37 am

Oh, how interesting (yet sad)! Then, I guess the rocker's reaction to seeing those cigarettes boxes and finding the images gory, yet buying them anyway would make sense. Heck, maybe he saw those boxes and gory images and all, he still wanted them bad!

I wish I had taped that, because I am not sure of how and where he got the info on how smoking leads to premature ageing and bad looks, because I wonder if "that" sort of warning had an effect on him because he got that info from some other type of source (say, radio, some reading) where he did not "see" anything he could link to smoking.
I wonder if our mind associations at the time of buying (or wishing to) "something" are linked to something we "saw", that is, to our sight rather than to what we experience through the other senses!
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Re: Buy*ology and our attitude toward plastic surgery

Postby dr. lam » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:03 am

usually, our other senses are more powerful than our sight. that is what today's and tomorrow's blogs are about. although i am focused on being uplifting in my blogs, i also want to be honest and realistic about our human failings. i know this week's blogs are not necessarily uplifting, but they are real. i was disturbed by what i read in this book, but i think we all need to know our full nature to be able to understand how to avoid certain parts of our nature so that we can improve. o/w if i just painted a rosy picture every day, that would in my opinion be false. i think we all can grow every day but understanding both our strengths and our weaknesses, that we share as part of the human race, is a prerequisite evaluation for self-growth. thanks again for the insightful comments!
best (notice i'm keeping my "best" m/m despite the fact that it is a bit generic),
sml
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Re: Buy*ology and our attitude toward plastic surgery

Postby Mysteryagain » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:39 am

I don't find your latest posts negative in the least. They are about studies that help us understand how our mind functions like. And there is nothing like knowing ourselves and the "tricks" our human minds play to understand ourselves and the others to in turn have a more realistic view of ourselves and the life around us. Only when we are realistic we can have realistic expectations. A saying goes "disappointments happen when we had big unrealistic expectations". So, all this you are posting will help us at better formulating our goals, our objectives and in turn at better interactig others (by understanding their reasoning or their subconscious reactions better)... that way, we can only be more likely to not set standards for ourselves or others that won't be met and so, that will disappoint us and make us lose our "energy" to go on in life.

I had a teacher who always said that innocence and optimism are wonderful traits, but not so the false innocence created by sheer ignorance, nor the optimism fueled by unrealistic ideas of the world nor out of living in denial. Her words always stuck with me, and the older I get, the more I find truth in them.

So your last posts in the blog are just as useful and enriching as the rest!!!
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Re: Buy*ology and our attitude toward plastic surgery

Postby dr. lam » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:01 pm

Great! That's why I chose them. I'm glad you can see the positive in knowing our weaknesses. I certainly can, and I think they offer a nice counterpoint to my previous weeks' blogs! Thanks M/A
best hugs (hey, that is a nice combo :) )
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Re: Buy*ology and our attitude toward plastic surgery

Postby Mysteryagain » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:05 pm

Love "best hugs", so original LOL!
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Postby dr. lam » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:31 pm

:D :)
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